PLAN COMMISSION

June 8, 2006

                                                                                                           

Members present:  Breault, Koch, Yoerg, Mailloux, Gilbert and Bieraugel

 

Others present:  Dan Routson, Jay Andrews, Dave Holt, Chris Anderson, Brad Burke, Brian Hinz, Gabriel Lane, Lynn Burns, Mark Erickson, Randy Hanson, Denny Darnold and others.

 

The meeting was called to order by Chairman Breault at 7:00 p.m.

 

Moved by Mailloux, seconded by Yoerg to approve the meeting minutes of 5-25-06.  Motion carried.

 

Public hearing, application for conditional use permit to have an outdoor vehicle sales lot at 805 Dominion DriveAutoProz / Dan Routson.  Breault asked if anyone would like to make a public comment regarding the application for conditional use permit.  No comments were received.  Moved by Yoerg, seconded by Koch to close the public hearing.  Motion carried.

 

Presentation by Brad Burke, Aggregate Industries regarding pervious pavements.  Bob Bieraugel introduced Brad Burke, Aggregate Industries.  Burke gave an informative presentation regarding the technology and use of pervious concrete.  Reasons to consider the use of pervious concrete include:

-         The pavement invites water to transmit to the subgrade.

-         Reduces cost, particularly operational cost of snow plowing or stormwater management.

-         Decreases thermal pollution because of warm water runoff to streams.

-         Slows down the rate of stormwater runoff.

-         Pavement can be extended to under the drip line of a tree.

-         Cost benefits result from less stormwater utility, decreased liability and increased site utilization.

 

Burke noted that because municipalities are showing more interest in use of the pervious concrete pavements, the pavement industry is increasing their research and review of applicability and product quality.

 

Mailloux asked if specifications would need to be established by the city, if utilized.  Burke noted that there are pavement engineering specialists that can assist cities with the preparation of specifications; but yes, specifications should be created by each city as application may vary from city to city.  Yoerg questioned if the concrete can plug up with

 

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fines over a period of time.  Burke noted that is generally not a concern, but the pavement does need to be maintained with vacuuming or washing periodically and that required maintenance should be part of the specifications of approval.

 

Burke explained that the concrete can hold more water than sod, but that care must be taken to use the pervious concrete on slopes of lesser degrees to avoid the water flowing downhill. 

 

In regards to freeze / thaw resistance, the Concrete Tech Center in Ames, Iowa has tested various types of pervious concrete to as many as 300 freeze / thaw cycles which would be equivalent to about 50 years.  There is also a research center in Albertville, Minnesota, Burke noted.  Yoerg asked if 20 years prior to replacement is realistic.  Burke stated yes.

 

Yoerg asked if it would be necessary to overlay the porous concrete after a certain period.

Burke noted that the material should be replaced in total with the sub-base upgraded if necessary.

 

Burke reiterated that the installation contractor should be certified in compliance training and that all requests for bids should require that all contractors be certified.

 

Breault asked if a test site could be considered in Hudson.  Burke stated that maybe a small test site could be considered.

 

Yoerg noted that one benefit of the pervious material is traction.  Burke cautioned about using pervious pavements on steep slopes, but did comment that it has been used on boat ramps.  Gilbert expressed concern on using this type of concrete in the river due to fluctuating water levels.

 

Breault thanked Burke for the presentation.

 

Final development plans, 10, 032 sq. ft. office / warehouse facility, 3440 Yoerg Drive, St. Croix Business Park – St. Croix Valley Ecowater / Jim Schober.  Darnold noted that the site is located east of Hulcher Services and south of General Motors SPO.  Brian Hinz, project architect reviewed the development plans noting that the initial phase of construction is 10,032 sq. ft. and total build-out of 20,064 sq. ft..  The site improvements contain a fire lane that extends to the south of the building.  Darnold commented that the landscape plans include landscaping only for the initial phase.  Hinz noted that landscaping will be extended in the second phase and will meet the city’s landscape standards when completed in total.

 

 

 

 

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Moved by Koch, seconded by Yoerg to recommend approval of the final development plans for the 10,032 sq. ft. St. Croix Valley Ecowater facility at 3440 Yoerg Drive with the following conditions:

-         The plans be modified to address the recommendations of the city engineer and fire inspector and that a letter of credit for $5,860 be required to assure the restoration of city street, curb and gutter, boulevard and stormwater improvements and associated inspection costs.

-         Landscaping plans for the second phase of the project be submitted for approval by the plan commission and Common Council.

Motion carried.

 

Concept development plans, 16,560 sq. ft. Aldi Foods and 14,400 sq. ft. retail center, northwest quadrant of Hanley Rd. and Carmichael Rd. – F.W. Gordon Construction, Inc. / Gabriel Lane.  Darnold noted this is the site south of Menards.  Darnold introduced Gabriel Lane, F.W. Gordon Construction.  Lane reviewed the proposed buildings noting that Aldi Foods, a grocery chain, would occupy the westerly building; and the retail center will be a multi-tenant building.  The tenants are not specifically known at this time but may include one or two restaurants or food operations. 

 

Yoerg expressed concern about the amount of traffic near Hanley Rd. and Carmichael Rd. and questioned if any additional turn lanes may be necessary to facilitate traffic.  Lynn Burns, project engineer noted that traffic from the Aldi Foods store may create up to 60 to 90 cars per hour during the peak traffic period; there should be sufficient stacking between Carmichael Drive and Monetary Boulevard to accommodate the traffic demand. 

 

Lane commented that Aldi Foods is generally a smaller grocery facility and sell non-branded quality foods at a discount price, 30-40% less than typically seen.

 

Bieraugel asked if the developer may be willing to utilize pervious surface on this project.  Burns stated that the site has been designed, and the change in the stormwater pond area would be minimal.

 

Moved by Mailloux, seconded by Yoerg to approve the concept development plans for the Aldi Foods and F.W. Gordon retail center as proposed by F. W. Gordon with the plans to be modified to address the issues / recommendations of the city engineer and fire inspector and that the issue of turn lanes be forwarded to the city engineer for review.

Motion carried.

 

 

 

 

 

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Request by Prairie Partners of Hudson to place a freestanding sign on the public street right-of-way, 1003 Crest View Drive – Prairie Partners of Hudson / Prairie Pointe Professional Center/ Mark Erickson.  Mark Erickson explained that he is requesting the city to consider allowing the Prairie Pointe Professional Center sign to be placed on the right-of-way to allow for greater visibility and clarify for traffic where the entrance to the office development is at, versus along Heggen Street.  Erickson noted that the right-of-way is 120 feet wide within that area, and the property line is 40 feet from the curb of Crest View Drive.  Erickson requested that the identification sign for the development be placed about 15 feet to the south of the curb, which is typical for other neighborhood business signs.  Yoerg asked if there is a proposed access from Heggen Street.  Erickson answered no, because the city and Steve Kinney both own land between the office development and Heggen Street.

 

A concern was raised by Mailloux regarding liability on the city’s part.  Darnold noted that the city typically requires a use of easement agreement as a condition of approval and that agreement would require the city to be named an additional insured.

 

Gilbert asked about the need for right turn lanes for east bound traffic.  Erickson noted that the amount of traffic would not be sufficient to warrant additional turn lanes.

 

Darnold suggested that Erickson consider the use of a timer to dim or discontinue the sign lighting during the evening, after work hours.

 

Erickson stated he would be willing to bring the final plans back for the plan commission to review prior to construction.

 

Moved by Mailloux, seconded by Yoerg to recommend approval of the placement of the identification sign proposed by Prairie Partners of Hudson for the Prairie Pointe Offices, 1003 Crest View Drive with the following conditions:

-         The sign will utilize low intensity lighting.

-         The sign lighting will utilize a timer to turn off the lights after normal work hours.

-         That Prairie Partners of Hudson enter into a use of easement agreement specifying that Prairie Partners of Hudson agrees to be responsible for the removal and replacement of the sign if maintenance or construction of utilities are necessary within the right-of-way.  The agreement to be prepared by the city attorney.

-         The final plans to be reviewed by the plan commission prior to construction.

Motion carried.

 

 

 

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Other matters for discussion purposes only or placement on future agendas.  Darnold asked if the plan commission members would be available to meet the week of July 4th as the scheduled meeting would be July 6th.  It was decided not to meet the evening of July 6th, but to schedule as necessary with a possible morning meeting that week or the next week.  Gilbert commented that during the recent shut down of I-94, the semi-truck traffic northbound on Carmichael Rd. and turning east on Vine St. / CTH UU constantly were forced to trek the rear tires over the curb to make the turn movement and that the city should review the issue of increasing the turn radius to better accommodate the truck traffic.

 

Moved by Bieraugel, seconded by Mailloux to adjourn.  Motion carried.  8:30 p.m.

 

Respectfully submitted,

Dennis D. Darnold, Secretary